The chamois is great for 30 mi or so. Not as cushy as ref shorts but great for short and med distances. I used them biking and traveling in Europe and it was nice to be touring around by bike but not seeing the sites in Lycra.
The quality of the liner was good. According to the sizing chart, I could have ordered a med or large. I picked size med, but should known to go up a size when in doubt. No problem, Western Bike Works made the exchange easy to do.
These are great shorts, but I recommend ordering a size up. I'm 5'2, 120 lbs and the small would've worked but was very restrictive and kind of comical. I exchanged for the medium (I had to pay return shipping but otherwise the process was a breeze), and these will be a much more comfortable fit. I am just getting back into biking for leisure, and want the right equipment so I can be comfortable. This is a great deal for these, which can make any pants ideal for a ride - leggings, capris, shorts or heavier weight fabrics.