The chamois is great for 30 mi or so. Not as cushy as ref shorts but great for short and med distances. I used them biking and traveling in Europe and it was nice to be touring around by bike but not seeing the sites in Lycra.
These are great shorts, but I recommend ordering a size up. I'm 5'2, 120 lbs and the small would've worked but was very restrictive and kind of comical. I exchanged for the medium (I had to pay return shipping but otherwise the process was a breeze), and these will be a much more comfortable fit. I am just getting back into biking for leisure, and want the right equipment so I can be comfortable. This is a great deal for these, which can make any pants ideal for a ride - leggings, capris, shorts or heavier weight fabrics.
The quality of the liner was good. According to the sizing chart, I could have ordered a med or large. I picked size med, but should known to go up a size when in doubt. No problem, Western Bike Works made the exchange easy to do.