I first began using Hammer Perpetuem while training for a grueling five day ride in the Negev Desert. I knew that the ride itself would require supplemental calories and protein to preserve muscle strength over the long haul. I had previously relied on gels and energy drinks which were largely sugar and electrolyte based and knew that I needed more substance to deal with the desert heat and climbing. I like the added boost that Perpetuem provided particularly on back to back hard rides that I used it more and more as the training intensified. Now that I have completed the ride I see Perpetuem as a mainstay of my training nutrition regimen and a must for long multiday rides.
I first experienced this product when my LBS suggested me a trial pack before a training ride. Since then I have relied on this to keep me going on any my 60 mile ride where the pace is expected to remain in the mid 20's. I can't digest much in the early mornings, so if I need a little push to help sustain me on the weekly group rides that almost rival a cat 4-3 type training race, I will also occasionally use Perpetuem for these shorter but stout rides.
I can no longer find my favorite coffee flavor, but the typical orange cream works well. I like the fact that it is a natural product and will go bad after preparation if not consumed in a couple of hours. I'm always worried of foods that never expire.
A friend who is an ultra marathoner recommended this product to me after I mentioned that I sometimes just seemed to hit the wall very quickly on some of my longer bike rides (4-6 hours). Often I need to pack all of my own foodcalories because there are no stores or other sources of food in the remote areas where I most like to train.
Perpetuem has been a nice discovery. It provides long lasting energy, can be carried in several forms (in your water bottle, as paste in small flask, or as powder), and won't make you nauseous. If you have water sources along your route you can go a long long way without packing a lot of weight or bulk (you MUST take in a considerable amount of water along with Perpetuem or you won't be able to digest it).
My friend also recommended that I read through the Hammer website. I hadn't paid a lot of attention to nutritional needs before but found the Hammer documents to be outstanding. They gave me a much deeper understanding of the general needs of long distance cyclists as well as how those needs could be met by specific Hammer products.
I use this product for longer biking events, lasting over 2 hours. Consistency is smooth when well mixed. I have tried both flavors and both taste creamy without much hint of orange or strawberry. I notice a difference when I use this product in that I am stronger at the finish of rides. I recommend this product for what it does, however if you want something that tastes good find another product.
I take this with me on every ride over 10-15 miles. I use the orange-vanilla flavor (creamsicle -) It tastes good, you can use it in place of gels, and it can even replace food in a pinch. It has 7gr protien, 54gr carbs in 2 scoops. It can be a real life saver! Great stuff. Hammer is the best. I am just a loyal Hammer fan. They use good ingredients, very well thought out.
For me, the best cycling food is the one that I'll actually consume on the ride. I have a hard time choking down typical bars on a long ride esp. when it's hot. I mix 3 scoops w 24 oz of water and I supplement it w bars. I take swigs of it throughout the ride and eat bars when I have to. This ensures that I have enough gas in the tank to enjoy the ride and avoid the bonk. I like the strawberry cream flavor(?).
It's a bit pricey in my opinion but I have not found anything for cheaper, it's better than bonking.
This is one of my consistent supplements for longer rides and it works great for me. I have developed my own
method of using it for longer rides. I usually do 40-100 miles rides, including a lot of climbing, on the weekends. I usually do not eat anything prior to morning riding, other than a little coffee and some water.
I mix 2 scoops of Perpetuem and 2 scoops of Heed (or Cytomax) into my large bottles.
I then add water when bottle gets down to half-full or just below, and drink at least every 15-30 minutes.
(I also use Clif Mojo bars for additional calorie intake after 60-90 minutes of riding).
I then keep topping off the water, as needed.
Ever since I started using Perpetuem, I have NEVER felt a big bonk, nor have I felt hungry during a ride. It works very well, and I always make sure I have some on hand. It's a little pricey, but I feel the value of what it does for my riding is well worth it.
I use this for longer rides over 2 hours. I mix the night before and load 6-8 scoops in the water bottle. Then re shake and add ice before riding. I sip with electrolytes early in the ride while cold. I have not had a bonk feeling while using.
The strawberry tastes pretty good to me
I used to religiously bring Powerbar type nutrition on long rides with all the good intention of eating them but I never follow through because they are so hard to choke down on long hard, hot rides (sorry sounding a bit x-rated here...). The great thing about liquid nutrition is that it's so much easier to consume than bars so I actually use it. I bring two 24 oz bottles on typical rides One bottle with 3 scoops of Perpetuem and the other with electrolyte. In addition I take a bar or two and I'm good to ride 60-70 mile rides with 7K to 8K of climbing. I'll use up all the Perpetuem before the ride is over then I switch over to plain water and bars. Your mileage may vary but using this product with bars, I've never bonked. So if you're bonking more than you'd like or curious about the product, I'd give it a try. Oh, I tried a few flavors and I like the Orange Vanilla best, I believe. Good Luck.
Hmmm I guess my expectations were not managed correctly. I was really expecting this to help me. I ride 200 miles a week and ride in competitions that are 100 miles to 200 miles long. I'd had a number of people talk this stuff up. Did very little for me. Didn't help with queasiness or help me feel like I had better energy. Two times I tried it out with hopes.. Now its just some stuff I need to use up so that I don't feel to bad about buying it. To bad, most hammer stuff is pretty good.
Great stuff! Used it during some early season brevets I did and never had any energy or stomach issues. I mix 5050 with HEED, and also carry a bottle of plain water to chase down the Hammer gel and occasional solid snack
I was introduced to Perpetuem by fellow cyclists who swore by the stuff. being a life long backpacker I know the need for sustained energy as you grind away on the trail or on the road. When I began cycling, I tried to employ the same mentality to long bike rides as I do to long hikes. Perpetuem really works! It is not hard on my stomach, and goes down easy. I do not feel the same muscle fatigue using it that I have using just a sports drink or gel. My recent one day ride in the Seattle to Portland classic (204 miles) proved to me that it provides long term fuel for my body.
My cousin introduced me to perpetum last yr while we trained for our first ironman. I was getting tired of gels and bars, and this stuff worked great. I usually put about 600 cal in a bottle, and it gets me through 2-3hrs of trainingracing. On the bike, it is really easy for me to continue getting the calories I need without hassling with a bar or gel. I enjoy all the flavors, but it does taste a little nasty on hot days. On hot days, I usually mix it a hr before I ride and place in the freezer so it stays colder longer and the taste doesnt get bad.
For rides races greater than 3 hours, I have found that Hammer Perpetuem keeps me going longer and stronger than any other product that I have tried. For me, the carb to protein mix is perfect. I supplement with a second bottle of 50% gatorade or similar product and then a Gu or two when I am gearing up for a climb or a sprint to get something higher octane into the system.
It is a bit expensive, though. I use about 1.5 scoopshr and that is on the high side of the price spectrum for me, especially if I am also using some gatorade and Gu packs.
I follow the mix directions, and while I thought I would hate the thick mix, I ended up really liking it. Plus, I like the OrangeVanilla flavor. Goes down great.
I've tried quite a few endurance drinks, and this one is by far my favorite. I was definitely losing muscle mass during longer rides prior to using this, and the protein included in the drink seems to keep my body from cannibalizing my own muscle on rides of over 4-5 hours. I know taste is a very personal matter, but I find the Orange Vanilla flavor to be quite nice. The only drawbacks to this product are 1) it doesn't stay mixed well in the bottle, so you'll have to shake the bottle a little each time, and 2) it won't last in your bottle all day. Its fine for 4-5 hours, but much longer than that, and it starts to turn nasty. I now use it in the CamelBak Podium Ice bottles. Fill one with 2 scoops of this, as much ICE as you can fit in, top it off with water, and it'll be good even 5 hours into the ride.
just starting to come around to the "protein drink on longer rides" approach, having had some problems with gut bombs from too many sandwiches on hotter days
i find this stuff undrinkable straight, but cut 5050 with something like orange cytomax, add ice, and you've got a creamsicle shake in the water bottle that will keep you running strong - found it just the ticket on this year's stp along with extra salt!, which was somewhat hot and headwindy from miles 100150
of course low-fat chocolate milk also works quite well when available -