used for general training rides and groupclub rides p ro's works great with 25c tires,feels very solid and semi aero advantage.con's only one for me WEIGHT.
Got this saddle after purchasing a Trek Verve (upright riding). I was using my Brooks saddle, which love very much. No matter how many adjustments the saddle would not get comfortable. Sad, so put it back on my other bike which is a crank forward model. I only gave it a four star because it's just been a few rides and the verdict is still out. Nevertheless, it is more comfortable on the private parts. I'm sure will like it more after I get acclimated to the new ride and saddle.
Bought these to use as my every day wheels and my typical rides include 30 miles during the week with some well over 100 on the weekends. As an all around wheel they do very well including climbing, descending and high speed flats and brake well when wet. They are obviously fast, a noticable improvement over my 25mm aluminum wheels, although hard to quantify how much faster. I will say I have set new Strava PRs including climbing with these and some at lower wattage than previous bests where I have ridden the segments hundreds of times. Weight with rim strips on (they come installed) were 1579g for the set without skewers. The skewers are nice looking and light but I use a set of Bontrager skewers as the Enve's were allowing too much flex and had some brake track rubbing on climbs - which is noticeable from the brake track. I am a heavier than average cyclist at 185lbs which contributes somewhat I am sure to the flex, but I do need to run the brake to rim air gap a little larger with these than on my C2s.
The brake track makes sound a bit like a bottle rocket or jet, but not too loud - people in a pace line do know you are braking for sure. They are very effective for stopping performance. My assessment is you need less lever pressure wet or dry to stop when compared to aluminum brake tracks. The wet braking is not as good as dry which is claimed, however it is very good, no issues with it at all.
Overall, I am very happy with these and would recommend them.
I'm on my second pair of the red 9 degrees float version of this cleat. The first pair lasted me just under three seasons of regular riding. I haven't had any issues with looseness, but I'm guessing the black and red versions may handle slightly differently? I'm not a big fan of the Look cleats with the rubber bottom pieces. I've found the rubber pieces come off too easily. These do not have that issue, and for the price these can't be beat. My Look cleat cover fits these great.